040 – An Open Letter to Grief Part Two – with Jo Betz

Episode 40 with the radiant Jo Betz in An Open Letter to Grief – Part Two.

*Trigger Warning*

This episode comes with a trigger warning for *Grief*. If you have lost someone that you love, I would firstly like to offer my deepest condolences and to tell you how deeply sorry I am. My love is with you.

Move through this episode mindfully; becoming aware of when it may be time to press pause, take a moment, regather your thoughts and validate whatever feelings are arising for you. The invitation to come back and finish this episode when you are ready is warmly welcomed, as I believe these episodes (Part One and Part Two) carry a lot of power in helping to normalise the conversation around grief.

In part two, Jo and I discuss why grief is not a check list we can complete, the benefits of seeing a psychologist in and outside of grief, the balance of grieving and parenting at the same time, the physical effects of grief, finding a spiritual connection to our lost loved one and grieving during a pandemic.

If you have any thoughts or messages, Jo and your host would love to hear from you! You can find Jo over on Instagram at @jo.betz and connect with your host at @stephsanzaro, happy listening xx

Welcome to The Steph Sanzaro Podcast, this week we are back with Jo Betz for Part Two of “An Open Letter to Grief”.

Last week we dove into Jo’s story of losing her husband Craig unexpectedly and how she’s managing life after his death. If you haven’t had a chance to listen in to Part One yet, then I definitely recommend heading back to last weeks episode before starting this one.

For a more in-depth description about this episode “An open letter to grief” please see last weeks episode description.


*Trigger Warning*

This episode comes with a trigger warning for *Grief*.
If you have lost someone that you love, I would firstly like to offer my deepest condolences and to tell you how deeply sorry I am. My love is with you.

Move through this episode mindfully; becoming aware of when it may be time to press pause, take a moment, regather your thoughts and validate whatever feelings are arising for you. The invitation to come back and finish this episode when you are ready is warmly welcomed, as I believe these episodes (Part One and Part Two) carry a lot of power in helping to normalise the conversation surrounding grief.


In Part Two we wrap up our beautiful conversation together, normalising the conversation surrounding grief.

Jo and I discuss:

  • why we can’t tick off the stages of grief like a checklist
  • the value behind seeing a psychologist in and outside of grief
  • what it means to find closure
  • the balance of grieving and parenting at the same time 
  • the physical effects of grief no one really discusses
  • when everyone returns to their normal life, but life isn’t normal for you anymore 
  • being forgotten in your grief
  • finding a spiritual connection to the person we have lost 
  • life after, the reality of life after death 
  • grieving the loss of ‘time to grieve’, during a pandemic that has taken precedence

Over two parts, Jo has done such a beautiful and graceful job of shining light into the realities of grief that a lot of us feel but don’t have the words to describe or maybe feel as though we are not allowed.

I would like to say a massive thank you to Jo Betz for joining us for two magical episodes and for sharing in such an incredibly inspiring way. She helps us all know that it is okay to grieve, however that may look for us.

If you would like to get in contact with Jo, you can find her through the sources below.

Jo is online at https://www.jobetz.com.au

Find Jo on Instagram Here


If you have any thoughts or messages please feel free to message Jo or I, we would love to hear from you!

Subscribe or leave a 5 star review over at the The Steph Sanzaro Podcast here

Connect with your host on instagram @stephsanzaro

Happy listening lovelys,

Steph x

039 – An Open Letter to Grief Part One – with Jo Betz

Episode 39 with Jo Betz comes with a *trigger warning* for grief.

Please listen mindfully and become aware of what feelings this episode may arise within you. Take the time to set the episode aside if it feels necessary and to validate what is coming up for you. You are welcome to join us again at any time and listen back in to this wonderful conversation normalising grief.

Jo Betz is a wedding celebrant, author, speaker and blogger who suddenly lost her husband Craig 3 years ago to an asthma attack in the middle of the night. Jo shares her story here with us today to help normalise the conversation surrounding grief and to shine light into the areas of grief that society tends to shy away from.

As someone currently moving through my own grief, I can say how much I didn’t realise I desperately needed this conversation. Recording it and being present during it helped to validate my grief and what I have been feeling in more ways that one and it made me feel like I was truly not alone.

We have divided today’s episode into two parts, so make sure to hit the subscribe button so that you are notified when the second part airs.

I cannot wait for you to listen to this beautiful and raw episode, it was truly such a pleasure to be a part of. You can connect with Jo on instagram at @jo.betz and she would love to hear from you!

Connect with your host via Instgram at @stephsanzaro. Happy listening xx

Welcome to The Steph Sanzaro Podcast, we are back this week with a beautiful and raw episode normalising the conversation surrounding grief.

This week I am joined by none other than Jo Betz, the incredible woman giving grief a voice.

I came across Jo on Instagram during the early stages of 2020 after she wrote a very poignant blog post about the parallels between grief and the national pandemic we are all living through. I was taken with her sincere depth and her eloquent way of describing grief and instantly became a very big fan of this highly intelligent woman.

At the time I had not yet experienced grief before. I had never lost anyone and I was very thankful for this, I’d consider myself quite lucky for never having experienced this type pain before in my life. But I knew it was out there and I knew it was closer to me than ever before.

I was living through one of the hardest stages in my life thus far as my Nan, the woman who was like a mother to me was slowly losing her life to cancer. I sadly lost her in June this year and suddenly found myself in the pits of grief for the first time with no idea if what I was feeling was normal.

I knew of no one else discussing grief openly besides Jo. She was speaking with such grace and articulating grief in such a way that helped me feel very seen in what I was going through. She was talking openly about the emotions that I had been feeling and the pain that I had been going through and in time, it gave me the strength to talk openly about my grief too.

When Jo and I first connected, I knew that we would click instantly. She felt like an old friend, someone who I could resonate with (and someone I think you will strongly resonate with too). She is gentle and kind, yet strong and independent, and it is my absolute pleasure to have us here with us today sharing her story in an open letter to grief.

Jo Betz talks about the loss of her husband and the launch of her new grief journal and subsequent workshops. August is Grief Awareness Month. Picture: Peter Ristevski

*Trigger Warning*

This episode comes with a trigger warning for *Grief*.
If you have lost someone that you love, I would firstly like to offer my deepest condolences and to tell you how deeply sorry I am. My love is with you.

Move through this episode mindfully; becoming aware of when it may be time to press pause, take a moment, regather your thoughts and validate whatever feelings are arising for you. The invitation to come back and finish this episode when you are ready is warmly welcomed, as I believe these episodes (Part One and Part Two) carry a lot of power in helping to normalise grief.


Jo’s husband Craig passed away suddenly from an asthma attack just over 3 years ago and Jo’s life has never been the same since. Over the past 3 years and through learning through her grief she has found her voice, telling her story in speaking engagements, blog posts, podcasts, articles and most recently in her beautiful addition to the world, ‘Grief – a guided journal’.

Through these works Jo has shone light into the corners of grief that others may feel but are not able to articulate openly. In doing this, Jo’s story carries an incredible ability of letting others know that they are not alone in their grief.

In Part One Jo and I discuss:

  • does getting the chance to say ‘goodbye’ impact our grief?
  • how bad days, bad weeks, bad months and an overall heaviness are normal after losing someone
  • the reality of grief fatigue, jet lag after loss
  • how long it’s acceptable to grieve openly in our society
  • the double standard for how much grief is ‘allowed’, depending on your relationship to the person you lost
  • wanting to fast forward your grief, numb out and close off your feelings
  • how grief can bring us closer together
  • loving and knowing Craig
  • learning that grief is simply pain from having loved someone so much

Today’s episode will be split into 2 parts, divided over two weeks. Jo and I had such a good time recording this episode that we ended up speaking for hours! I truly believe that these two episodes are SO valuable in helping others who are grieving to know that the weird things that they’re feeling and experiencing, are completely normal and that other people are going through them too.

Part Two offers some of my favourite pieces of insight and wisdom, so make sure to hit the subscribe button so that you know the moment that it airs and becomes available.

Jo and I sat down today in the hopes of helping others out there who are grieving and I sincerely hope we have done that. If you have any comments or messages about Part One, please feel more than invited to send us a message on Instagram to let us know your thoughts.

To connect with Jo privately, you can find her through the links below.

Jo is online at https://www.jobetz.com.au

Find Jo on instagram Here


Thank you so much for joining us today and for sharing your time with us, we look forward to seeing you next week for Part Two!

Happy listening,

Love Steph xx
@stephsanzaro

031 – The Power of Manifestation with Your Host

In episode 31, a solo episode with your host, we discuss the idea of Manifestation. We talk about the importance of visualisation and calling in your ideal future, feeling your desires and getting clear on your vision. We discuss the innate goodness of people and the importance to finding gratitude in each day, the significance of a positive mindset and walking with an open mind. Connect with your host on instagram via @stephsanzaro Happy listening! x

Welcome to The Steph Sanzaro Podcast, today you are joining me for another solo episode about the power of manifestation.

Manifestation is something that is a little ‘woo woo’ and highly spiritual and I’ll admit that growing up I kind of just thought it was a bit of nonsense.

But over the past few years, as I have dove into spirituality and self development works, I have found myself doing my own manifestation practices and have seen it bring forth many amazing opportunities, simply by putting it out into the universe.

In this episode I will take you through:

  • a little run down on the past 6 months and how manifestation has played it’s part
  • the innate goodness of people at a core level
  • how we must find gratitude in every day and hour
  • the importance of feeling your deepest desires
  • journalling, as a form of calling in your ideal future
  • getting clear on your vision
  • the significance of a positive mindset and an open mind
  • trusting in the process and allowing whatever will come, to come

I hope you all enjoy this short solo episode and that it opens your mind to seeing the world in a new and different way.

If you have any feedback or comments, please do not hesitate to connect with me through Instagram at @stephsanzaro I would love to hear from you!

Love Steph xx